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The Propositions: Yes, No, No, No, Yes, Yes, Yes, No, No, Yes, Yes

Tom Long analyzes the statewide propositions on the California November ballot.

Confused? So was I, until I spent some time reading information about these. My thoughts:

30: Gov. Brown and a number of us want more revenue for the state. California's revenue has dropped 15 percent from its peak while our population grows. We are overly dependent on taxes that fluctuate too much with the economy and we are now 47th in educational spending. If we want better government, we must pay.  You don't get what you don't pay for. Vote yes.

31: Not well explained and will add tens of millions in costs for no apparent reason. Just another attempt to legislate good spending practices by fiat. If you want a good legislature, pay for one. If you continue to pay little or nothing to people who serve in state legislature—well, there is no free lunch. Vote no.

32: A proposition to cripple unions paid for by corporations pretending to be a balanced limitation on both. Nonsense. Corporations don't take their political money from employees; they rip off shareholders like me instead. Prevent the neo-fascists who control most corporations from spending what should be my dividend money supporting reactionary causes and we can talk—until then, no thanks. Vote No.

33: George Joseph and Mercury Insurance Co. spending big bucks to re-write insurance law—again. No thanks. Vote no.

34: The death penalty. Supported by right-wingers who hate lawyers but naively believe that death sentences are always right. $4 billion spend to execute a handful of people and over $100 million a year wasted. Residents of Death Row are much more likely to die a natural death than to be executed. But it is not true that life insurance companies are selling policies there—yet. Vote yes to repeal the death penalty.

35: Higher penalties for human trafficking opposed by some crazies. Vote yes.

36: The three strikes law. Life in prison for stealing a slice of pizza. Time for a repeal of this wasteful and expensive nonsense. Vote yes.

37: Require genetically modified food to be labelled. Large costs. And lots of litigation. Lots of stuff is genetically engineered. There is no scientific basis to treat such food differently and we will have endless disputes over what is covered and what is not. Corn is genetically modified—as is wheat. This will be like Proposition 65—everything will have a label. Vote no.

38: A close call. Raises more money than 30 and dedicates the money clearly to schools. All good. But raises income taxes on very low earners and raises taxes just a bit too much. Vote no.

39: We are a bunch of fools letting corporations pick different formulas to calculate their share of California taxes. Surprise! They manipulate the formulas.   This proposition will base taxes on percentage of sales in California—removing the incentive to move jobs outside the state. Vote yes.

40: Put on the ballot by people opposed to the neutral redistricting of legislative districts. Then they argued—gee, the proposition we put on the ballot is not needed so no "yes" vote is needed. Not true. Unless the proposition passes, redistricting for the state senate goes back to the courts. Vote yes.

Tom Long

Arthur Christopher Schaper October 31, 2012 at 08:16 pm
Keep is Simple:
Yes on 32, 35, 36. 40 No on the rest. As for any more initiatives -- the state needs to give it a rest!
sharon yarber November 3, 2012 at 12:21 am
Tom and I agree on some things (shocking) and disagree on others (not at all shocking).
30 - vote no. We do not need more taxes, we need less government, less waste, more accountability, less spending, fiscal responsibility, enforcement of our immigration laws, and the elimination of unions that have an absolute stranglehold on the state and the country. The money from this initiative goes to the general fund (not to schools as they falsely assert) so we can build high speed railroads we don't need, fund pensions that are beyond ludicrous (creating in the next generation a "privileged class" comprised of retired government retirees), and the list goes on and on. The only way to reign in out of control spending, which exists at every level of government, starting with out own cities on the Hill, is to cut off the unlimited supply of money.
sharon yarber November 3, 2012 at 12:29 am
Continuing on
Prop 32 - absolutely vote yes. It may not be perfect, but no legislation ever is. Unions are BY FAR the most dominant force in the politcal arena spending vastly more money than corporations and individuals combined. 32 does not prevent members of unions from forming PACs to which they can individually contribute (just like everyone else who contributes to a PAC), and support the causes near to their hearts and values. To force payroll deductions in the form of union "dues" to funnel tens of millions into campaigns to support causes not support by those who foot the bill is just wrong. The CTA (CA Teacher's Association) is one of the worst offenders. We will never be able to get the out of control pension problems resolved as long as unions call all of the shots at the local, state and federal levels.
sharon yarber November 3, 2012 at 12:34 am
Continuing on:
34 - vote No. The death penalty is appropriate and it is not the problem. The judicial system that allows 30 years of repeated appeals on multitudinous grounds is the problem. The system needs to be overhauled; the death penalty needs to be retained and actually enforced. The people of CA continuously vote to keep it. We know that if it actually was enforced it would be a deterrent to violent crime. What we have is a joke. Let's fix the problem, not eliminate the death penalty.
sharon yarber November 3, 2012 at 12:40 am
Here Tom and I agree. Vote yes on 36. Three strikes was well intentioned (keep career criminals off the street) but its implementation is flawed. We can do better. But that doesn't mean get rid of three strikes as a concept - it means fix the law so that it makes sense and puts away for life those who should be put away for life because of a proven history of repeated violence. No "pizza thief" lifers for me!
I am still studying the rest of the Propositions and will write my views once they are finalized. In the meantime, it is a sad commentary on our legislature the there are so many Propositions in the first place. It means that those we have elected to serve us have continuously failed. Let's clean house and get some career politicians (like Waxman) out of office and get a breath of fresh and unspoiled air. Vote for Bloomfield.
Tom Long November 3, 2012 at 01:31 pm
Proposition 32 cripples unions and leaves corporations free to spend our income as shareholders without restraint. As Yarber says, 32 is far from perfect. The notion that unions spend more on politics than corporations is something you can only believe if you decide to ignore the large PACs of wealthy corporate owners and otherwise jigger thew data to fit your agenda. As a right-wing big business toady who worked for large insurance companies Yarber just mouhts their propoganda.
Tom Long November 3, 2012 at 01:36 pm
Here suprisinbgly Sharon is being naive. The legal troubles and costs of the death penalty are imposed by the Supreme Court (and by a Supreme Court that is activist, pro death penalty and profoundly conservative) and yet the costs cannot be changed. Wishing the death penalty would be less expensive will not make it so. We have spent $4 billion to execute less than a baker's dozen. Imnmates on death row are far less likely to be executed than to die a natural death. And the legal and medical expenses and special housing cost a fortune. Amazingly Yarber railws against "waste"in opposing Proposition 30 but whenfaced with some real waste than can be cut simply cannot bring herslef to support constructive change. Typical right wing conservative thinking.
Tom Long November 3, 2012 at 01:45 pm
When California chose to rely primarilyt on sales and income tax to fund government it chose unstable revenue sources. The state's revenues overall arer down 15% from the peak and yet our population grows. An econonkic downturn is an oppostunity to build infrastructure for the future at a lower cost. It is also an opportunity to pay more and restore services we would otherwise lose. If all we focus on is immediate "needs" we will never progress forward. As for public pensions they are nowhere near the issue the francttic media propoganda makes them out to be and chaging the funding on them won't close the 15% gap in gthe state's budget. Again Sharon is a victim of wishful thinking. Sharon has no proposed solution to the revenue shortfall other than meaningless buzz words. We are at the bottom of the barrel on many government services and are beginning to look like a third world country or, worse yet, a red state. But iunlike red states we don't get subsidized by the federal gtovernment--we only get back about 80 cents for each dollar we send in to the federal government. And much of what we sent is wasted on military misadventuyres. This all has to stop and it has to stop now. Looking for waste? Loolk to the bloated defense budgets and pray that a second Obama administration with a Democratic majority in both houses of Congress can bring those budgets down.
Tom Long November 3, 2012 at 01:50 pm
Sharon has this one right, but then even a broken clock tells the right time twice a day.
And no, let's not let Mr. Bloomfield, a vacuous inexperienced multi-millionaire internet businessman who has donated millions to conservative causes and now masquerades as an "independent" buy a seat in Congress with millions of his own dollars. We can have a representative with a record of actually getting things done. Vote for Waxman.
IAM November 6, 2012 at 01:49 pm
Go Sharon! Tom, the state is bankrupt because manufacturers are abandoning the state in droves. High taxes and regulations are the cause for revenue decline and a population which has become dependant upon government. Our schools and medical facilities are over run with those not investing in the service. I'm not sure if the statement is accurate or not but sooner rather than later the number of people getting a hand out will exceed those paying any form of income tax. How do you plan to keep paying for the free lunch!

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