Waxman, Bloomfield Square Off in Forum

Rep. Henry Waxman and Bill Bloomfield are vying to represent California's new 33rd Congressional District.

Congress needs representatives who will reach across the aisle and work with members of the opposing party, according to the two men running to represent California's newly created 33rd Congressional District.

In front of a group of local dignitaries and small business owners at the Rolling Hills Country Club in Rolling Hills Estates last week, Rep. Henry Waxman, a Democrat who currently represents the 30th Congressional District, and candidate Bill Bloomfield, an independent from Manhattan Beach, traded barbs over Waxman's record and the hyper-partisanship in Congress, the Simpson-Bowles debt reduction recommendations and even the Department of Veterans Affairs facility in West Los Angeles.

The forum's format gave each candidate four minutes for an introduction before a 10-minute, question-and-answer session. However, the candidates deviated from the format quite often.

Bloomfield threw the first verbal punch with a reference to the new bipartisan commission charged with drawing district lines. Without it, Waxman's "pals" in Sacramento would have drawn him a safe district, Bloomfield said.

"I'm worried about the future of our country," he said, talking about the "bickering" in Washington, D.C.

Throughout the event, Bloomfield emphasized his independence from the two-party system, explaining his "No Labels" caucus that promises to bridge the gap between Democrats and Republicans.

"I do not favor lowering taxes for the wealthy," Bloomfield said. "Our country needs a nonpartisan, pro-jobs approach."

For his part, Waxman decried the hyper-partisanship and lack of compromise in Congress: "I've never seen anything like it."

Bloomfield also emphasized his support of the National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform—also known as Simpson-Bowles—a bipartisan group designed to figure out methods of getting the national debt under control. The independent candidate said he would have voted for the committee's recommendations.

"We need to get our fiscal act in order," Waxman agreed, but "[Simpson-Bowles] is only a framework."

"If you and the other leaders in Congress had embraced the framework of Simpson-Bowles, we wouldn't have a fiscal cliff," Bloomfield said. "You are an outlier on this issue."

He likened sequestration—automatic spending cutbacks in such areas as defense—to playing chicken with the U.S. economy.

"I think the idea of sequestration is absurd," Waxman said.

Both, however, disagreed with the Norquist no-tax pledge, the anti-tax oath championed by conservative activist Grover Norquist, with Bloomfield calling it "God-awful" and "stupid."

Among the other topics, Waxman told attendees that he fought to keep the local VA property from being sold to developers and said he was "pleased" that a class-action lawsuit had been filed to compel the VA to provide services.

"[The lawsuit will] light a fire under the VA," he said. "It's a disgrace to have homeless veterans."

"The VA facility on Wilshire in West L.A. is a disgrace," Bloomfield shot back. "Why didn't you ask [government officials] to deal with it?"

Waxman retorted that he had to fight the Republicans who wanted to sell the facility—who Bloomfield supported.

Both candidates support abortion rights and same-sex marriage. On the death penalty, Bloomfield supports it and Waxman does not.

Still, Bloomfield said he would be voting for Proposition 34, which ends the death penalty in California, because the penalty is "simply not working" and costing the state "a zillion dollars."

Election day is Nov. 6.

The new 33rd District stretches from the Palos Verdes Peninsula to the Beach Cities, through slivers of Marina del Rey and Venice, up to Santa Monica, Malibu, Calabasas and Agoura Hills. The district also extends inland to include Brentwood, Pacific Palisades, Beverly Hills and parts of West L.A.

Tim Sole October 20, 2012 at 02:07 AM
If it walks like a commie, talks like a commie, it's a democrat, wait, it's Waxman. Sorry he is old, senile and lost all sense of reality.
j pena October 20, 2012 at 02:19 AM
Bloomfield has most of the same views as the Republicans. He was one for what, 20 years? I am sick of getting 2 flyers a day from him paid for by? Yes, we don't know, thanks Citizens United. If we get Bloomfield we get Republican: cuts or destruction of Medicare, the end of mortgage deduction - all the things being hidden by Romney - and Bloomfield is using HIDDEN as his style as well. Where does he admit to his history as a Republican. Plus, I find his attacks on Waxman to be very ugly. I've gotten several calls from Waxman's office where they have a group on the line and you can ask questions. He explained the ACA very well. Vote Democratic or we'll lose many gains and the 1% will gain ground, and they want that airport by the way.
Venice Republican October 20, 2012 at 02:39 AM
J pena your a pinko spreading propaganda about republicans. These are all untruths. If you want the truth look at the mess for the last four years of Obama. Get real Pena
Tim Sole October 20, 2012 at 03:32 AM
I guess my question to Mr. Pena is, how much are you being paid per post by Waxmen? You posted the same comment on a bunch of threads. So what are the Democrats paying these days for that type of thing?
Elizabeth Adrienne Clune October 20, 2012 at 04:14 AM
I am an independent and can only speak from experience. Henry Waxman has earned nothing but praise from me. He is the only politician who ever went out of his way to help me knowing he would receive nothing for it but my gratitude. He and his staff could not have worked harder for me taking on a big bully, i.e. Bank of America. They had my back all the way. I could not be more impressed. They were organized, efficient and quick to respond and kept the pressure on the bank. Nobody will work harder for you. All you have to do is ask. Don't even think about voting for anyone else.
Rebecca Whitnall (Editor) October 20, 2012 at 05:13 AM
Hey Venice, I appreciate spirited discussion as much as the next person, but not personal attacks. Those should be left out of the conversation, per Patch's terms of use. Thanks!
Mark October 20, 2012 at 01:00 PM
Henry Waxman is a wrench in the gears of congress. Anyone who accuses Bill Bloomfield of being a republican hasn't been paying attention. At all. He's been a champion independent voicesin Congress for years, which is why he co-founded No Labels and has contributed to 17+ Democrats in his career, as well as Republicans. (He has virtually the same social views as Waxman, in case you're wondering.) by running as an independant, he gets no money from either party, nor the special interest groups like big pharm that Waxman has NO problem taking millions from. Waxman has towed his party's line on 90% of the votes for the last three years. You think that's the type if leadership that's going to get things moving in Washington? Well, by all means, go ahead and vote for him. Again.
Arthur Christopher Schaper October 20, 2012 at 03:20 PM
Venice Republicans -- I knew you were out there! This is great -- get the Santa Monica Republicans and Conservatives and Independents out there, too. No more Waxman! Visit "Waxman Watch" -- waxmanwatch.blogspot.com -- for more information. End the reign of Waxman the Taxman!
Arthur Christopher Schaper October 20, 2012 at 03:22 PM
Waxman has voted "99%" of the time with his Party -- except when it comes to tax cuts -- he has voted against tax cuts for working class and middle class Americans. http://waxmanwatch.blogspot.com/2012/07/waxman-taxman.html
j pena October 20, 2012 at 10:56 PM
Tim Sole I am totally independent Santa Monican with a passion for politics. Who are you? Since most of us are Democrats YOU are the one who is rather unusual in your views here, not me! Anyone with the ability to read can see what Republicans represent in 2012 - the END of Medicare by voucherization costing seniors minimum 6,500 more per year, no matter what Romney pretends this is what they all want, reduced government so they can have HUGE tax breaks for the very wealthy. Plus, they want to end Freedom of Choice for women essentially sending us back to the 1950s PLUS no equal pay for women. Republicans no longer represent the character of the American people they are for the RICH, not the Middle Class.
j pena October 20, 2012 at 11:00 PM
Arthur you are spreading falsehoods. Document your claims. How stupid do you think we are to believe that Waxman would hurt the Middle Class when helping the Middle Class is the Democratic platform. The only tax cuts that he's against are for the very wealthy and you know this! The Republicans could care less if we go off a fiscal cliff in their efforts to maintain the Bush tax cuts for the very wealthy. Obama and Waxman want to keep the tax cuts for the Middle Class and only ask that the very wealthy give something back after they have enjoyed large tax cuts that do not help us with jobs. Trickle down theory has been disproven.
William October 21, 2012 at 01:52 PM
J Pena: If you're an independent, I'm the jolly green giant.
Tim Sole October 21, 2012 at 03:22 PM
Mr. Pena, I am a Democrat/Republicans worst nightmare. I am a hardworking blue collar guy, who builds things with his hands, who firmly believes in free speech and the right to bear arms. Having spent time in your city, I do realize no one there, believes in any of that. If a person cannot read Mr. Waxmen's voting record and see where his campaign money comes from, then declares he is all about the middle class, is delusional. There's not a single politician in this state that cares about the middle class. PERIOD, end of story.
j pena October 21, 2012 at 04:46 PM
Where did I say I am an Independent? You misunderstood, that was in response to someone accusing me of working for someone simply by expressing my opinion. I'm a Democrat obviously as are most people on the Westside of LA, come to think of it most people in California. That's why it's clear many of these comments about Waxman are questionable. Again, Bloomfield was a Republican and in 2011 donated to Romney. Who do you think he is? NOT an Independent but he KNOWS he cannot win in a Democratic area if he tells the truth. Thus, he is for all the irrational policies that the Republicans are for starting with destroying Medicare. Paul Ryan's voucher idea is nothing more than the destruction of Medicare and the costs to seniors will be enormous. For starters seniors will be hit with an extra 800 dollars a year that Obama's ACA was saving them. Romney is a CON MAN - he hasn't released his tax returns, wants to end Freedom of Choice for women -- terrible for our society, and he wants to continue the BUSH TAX CUTS for millionaires, money they don't need and the ethical ones don't even want! It's all about greed of the 1% and Mitt Romney is simply their puppet.
j pena October 21, 2012 at 04:52 PM
Okay Tim Sole, enlighten me with the information you claim is so damning about Waxman. Where does his money come from? Why is this an issue for you? If you vote for Bloomfield you'll get a Republican in terms of his views. He donated to Romney last year, he's not an "Independent" but has to say so to gain traction in a Democratic area. I call that deceptive at best. So let's say Bloomfield wins and Romney wins. What are you going to do when they destroy Medicare? If you are working class you'll need that. What about your children? If they are on your health insurance up to age 26 you'll lose that and that's expensive. What if you have a pre-existing condition and go without health insurance for even a month? Well you'll be out of luck with the Republicans, your monthly out of pocket if you're lucky might be $800-900 a month. Do you have a mortgage deduction? Say goodbye to that because Mitt is going to cut deductions so millionaires can have a huge tax cut. Please think it out, Republicans do not help working people.
Tim Sole October 21, 2012 at 05:48 PM
Mr. Pena, I have looked at all of those issues you brought up. A womans right to chooses is decided law, thats not going to change, everyone knows that. Medicare and Social Secuirty, I actually paid for through payroll deductions my whole life. Mr. Waxmen, along with other left wing extremists, want me to believe, as you believe, that the sky is falling. It really isn't, what is falling, is peoples rights to do, lets say light a cigarette, own a gun, speak their mind on "Political Correct"' issues, God Forbid if you disagree on the issue, drive a car home at night on the weekend and get stopped at a checkpoint somewhere, say something about religion in public, build a fire on the beach, have a beer while walking home, make home made cookies and send them to a school, tell people to learn english, I learn others language when I travel to their countries, fight a credit card billing error. Mr. Waxmen has consistently sided with the groups, whether liberal or conservative that created the laws that stop us from enjoying ourselves.
William October 21, 2012 at 08:50 PM
J Pena: Do you honestly believe that Bloomfield co-founded No Labels and fought for open primaries just to "hide" his republican past? Really? The man is passionate about changing this country for the better. All waxman cares about is "purifying" your party of all moderates. The guy has been in office 40 years. Congress is a disaster because there are people like him, on both sides, unwilling to look for the middle ground on any issue. The economy is is the toilet and the buck stops with the partisan incumbent. End of story.
j pena October 22, 2012 at 02:57 AM
I think Bloomfield is a Republican in a quasi disguise as are the rest of the No Labels people, I watch MSNBC etc and know exactly who they are, Republicans who are looking for an angle to gain power. The Democrats are the party to trust to save Medicare and maintain Social Security, we all know Bush tried to privatize it and that would and will be a disaster, Romney wants to destroy Medicare, all Republicans hate our safety net and hate the "47%" of people who have paid into that safety net, they want OUR MONEY for their greedy tax cuts to create an even more unjust plutocracy. The economy is recovering very well now under the stewardship of the Democrats and unemployment is down to 7.2% and million of new jobs have been created. You know all this if you read the news but there is a sad habit in our society lately, it's called Romnesia, and it's contagious, it has to do with speaking mistruths enough times that people believe it, Obama is going to win and any person who cares about their health care, Medicare or Social Security HAD BETTER vote for Waxman or live to regret it when you see who votes with Boehner and the rest of the obstructionist Republicans.
William October 23, 2012 at 12:15 AM
A) Bloomfield is not a Republican. You clearly are too mired in party rhetoric to actually listen to any of his policies (proven, FYI). B) Bloomfield is not trying to repeal Obamacare. C) Bloomfield ran a small business and grew it into a large business, in addition to pouring himself into non-partisian charity causes and organizations. Waxman has no private economic or job creation education. None. D) Once again, Bloomfield has contributed to 17+ non-republicans. Waxman has contributed to none. Zero. Nada. The guy's not a big fan of differing opinion. I'm sure you are frustrated by the republican-led majority in congress. As many were frustrated by the democrat-led super-majority when Obama was elected who decided that universal healthcare was more crucial than the unemployment rate. You may even be frustrated that Obama(or Waxman) didn't embrace the very budget plan that his own bi-partisian committee created. And thus left us with the slowest-improving economy, well, ever. It's fine if you try to blame a citizen who's spend his life using his good fortune to help those more unfortunate than himself (without any thought of having to run for office). It's fine to cherry-pick one or two contributions of the most hyper-partisan 40-year member of congress to vote on. It's also fine to use the manufactured party rhetoric (Romnesia) to argue your point. So you keep doin' what you're doin', j pena. It's a wonderfully free country.
j pena October 23, 2012 at 05:10 PM
You are just repeating Republican talking points. Bloomfield was a national leader on John McCain's 2008 presidential campaign. He contributed the max to Romney in 2011. Here are the facts for those who distrust the Republican or phoney "Independent" agenda that Bloomfield believes in, he would vote with Republicans. http://billbloomfieldfacts.com/
Tim Sole October 23, 2012 at 05:52 PM
Mr. Pena, what I don't understand is, why do you so dislike republicans. I have friends that cover the full spectrum of politics, from full blown socialists to right of Genghis Khan. To be quite frank, none of them dislikes the others politics as much as you do. I actually think you are part and parcel to the problem we are currently having in this country right now. You can't get past your parties talking points long enough to see that the other side may have some good talking points also.
j pena October 23, 2012 at 06:38 PM
Good Mr. Sole, you're improving. You're implicitly proving that Bloomfield is a Republican, and this is the point. Republcians are about tax cuts for millionaires, destroying the social safety net, costly wars, and some people are still blind enough to think they have any concerns about the Middle Class, they don't, they work for the rich
Tim Sole October 23, 2012 at 07:43 PM
To be quite frank Mr. Pena, I don't care if either of them are a democrat or republican. I'll stand by statement, you sir are part and parcel to the current problem we have. You blindly stand behind your parties and only your parties rhetoric. I know Mr. Waxmen is not, by definition, a democrat, because I was one at one time. All I do know about Mr. Bloomfield, is that he is running as an independent. He may have been a republican at one point in his life, just not now. Please try to keep things straight, Waxmen is not a Democrat and Bloomfield in not a Republican.
Bill MacPherson October 24, 2012 at 06:38 AM
Finally fed up with all of the google ads for Bill Bloomfield, he's running in my district, so I googled him and ended up here. Clearly he's a true republican by all accounts except for him admitting it. So he's basically a liar right at the foundation of his campaign. That's all we need is more lying politicians making cheap promises. I wish all of the republicans that I know would move to Alabama, Arkansas, Mississippi, South Dakota, Wyoming, and all of the other deep Red states and hang out with your brethren. Me? I'll stick to the west coast, midwest, and northeast parts of the nation.
Tim Sole October 24, 2012 at 03:53 PM
Good morning BIll, wow political cleansing. Now that is as Un-American a comment as I've seen on this board. Somehow I always knew that Democrats had a deep hatred of people that do not espouse the same view on everything. After all, the democratic party was and still is the party of the KKK. Bill, please take yourself and your family and leave AMERICA, WE DO NOT WANT YOU HERE.
Jane Tuma October 28, 2012 at 09:46 PM
Where is he getting his financial support? Annan
Neil C. Reinhardt November 05, 2012 at 03:57 AM
Talks like a Republican? gee you mean he does not support dishonest racist I call Oduma? A low life who had a white / America racist preacher as close friend until Oduma threw him under a bus? I am a independent voter who thinks anyone who supports a lying low life who includes two terrorist leaders (Dorn / Ayers) as his close friends is as totally lacking in Honor, Ethics, Morals and Integrity as Oduma is. Neil C. Reinhardt
Neil C. Reinhardt November 05, 2012 at 04:17 AM
Not once, in my soon to be 78 years of life have I ever known anyone who has LIED as MUCH as ODUMA has! And Children, as I have lived in more places, had many more professions and done many more types of different things than most even think about doing, as well as being smarter than 97.5 % of the world, I most certainly have more of a clue than are most who are 77, much less anyone who is younger. And FYI, I am not only known for being one of the most truthful person most have ever met. I will take any and all tests designed to detect lies and ace them. OBOTS are only clueless Clods of the Loony Left who not only refuse to learn the truth and the facts, they will deny them with out even attempting to verify them, And before anyone thinks I am a Programmed Religious Robot on the far Right, I am an Agnostic Atheist Activist who has been an Atheist for 68 of my 77 years and an Atheist Activist for over half of a century. LAST, RIGHT ON TIM SOLE, RIGHT ON!
Kevin ABC November 07, 2012 at 06:27 AM
Let's see. He wants to fix the VA in Westwood (which IS a disaster) instead of just selling it like the Republican stance. He wants to repeal the death penalty because it's fiscally irresponsible and not enough of a deterrent since the average convict spends 16 years on Death Row. He is against lowering taxes for the wealthy. None of this is Republican rhetoric. He sounds like a Democrat with an emphasis on fiscal responsibility. I vote Democrat but my beliefs are very moderate. He votes (and contributes) Republican but also seems very moderate with an emphasis on FIXING IT even if fixing it means taxing the rich. I'm all for this guy!
Mark April 12, 2013 at 06:43 PM
Neil barged into an email group to which I belong and started in with his razzle-dazzled about his being the smartest, the most truthful, the most honest, the most moral, blah-blah-blah person who ever existed -- and then promptly started lying out of his teeth, making up information, and slurring every single member of the group. It's interesting to note that Neil managed to alienate both conservatives and liberals, theists and atheists; and ended up with ONE friend -- Bruce Majors, who is one of the most vicious trolls ever to infest the Internet. http://www.edgeboston.com/index.php?ch=news&sc=local&sc2=features&sc3=&id=135266 You might be interested in knowing that Neil has gotten himself banned from all sorts of websites -- theistic, atheistic, conservative, liberal, etc. because of his really awful behavior online. Caveat emptor.


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